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November 14, 2002 edition

Honoring Cedar's VETS

Alisha Pierce, a freshman biology major from La Sal, escorts Mark Barton to the ballroom stage to accept an appreciation award for his 15 years in the SUU Veteran program.
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Football players
threaten students

By TYLER JOHNSON
UNIVERSITY JOURNAL

The issue of free speech on campus resurfaced when some nine SUU football players threatened an accounting student for comments he made in class on Oct. 30 about the team’s Homecoming loss, a group of students said.
Joshua Carroll, a sophomore from Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., was confronted by the freshmen athletes and followed out of the Sorenson P.E. Building after he made his comment.
The incident occurred after a History 1700 class in which Wayne Hinton, professor of history, spoke about the presidential race between Andrew Jackson and Henry Clay.
“When you think you are going to win, and you know you are going to win, and you lose, that makes the loss hurt a lot more than if you just thought that you might win,” Hinton was quoted as saying in class, according to a statement signed by six witnesses.
After Hinton’s comment, witnesses reported Carroll said, “Kind of like the Homecoming game.”
After the comment, the majority of the
people in the class, including Hinton, laughed, witnesses said.
“Watch out, now, there are some football players in here,” Hinton is reported to have said.
Hinton said the players did not look happy after Carroll’s comment.
Carroll said after class, the football players — including Jeff Deptola, a freshman pre-business major from Anaheim, Calif.; Derek Hood, a freshman physical education major from Abingdon, Va.; Joseph Kemp, a freshman geology major from Las Vegas; and Trint Laws, a freshman finance major from Salina — approached Carroll and threatened him.
Carroll said the players got within inches of his face and started yelling at him.
“Next time you make a dumb-a–– comment like that, we’re going to get all 90 of us and whip your a––, and it ain’t going to be pretty,” the players reportedly told Carroll.
Carroll’s sister, Jennifer Carroll, a senior English major from Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., was with her brother at the time of the incident and walked out of the building with her brother after the alleged threats

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were made.
As the Carrolls left, witnesses said, the players followed, taunting them, they said.
“Hey, p–––y,” the players reportedly said. “Where the hell do you think you’re going? Fine, go ahead; walk off with your bi–––! F–––ing p–––y!”
“I was a little scared at first,” Joshua Carroll said. “If I knew it was going to be taken this seriously and hurt them this bad, then I wouldn’t have said it. But I thought that being players of a really intense physical sport, they should take a little criticism.”
Laws disputed the witnesses account. He said the football players did not yell at Carroll but calmly asked him to refrain from making comments like that again.
“I know our football team is not the greatest, but you don’t need to say smart things like that,” Laws said. “It was kind of offensive to us.”
Laws said he believes that not only did
Carroll have the right to say what he said in class, but the nine football players had the right to express their feelings to Carroll as well.
President Steven D. Bennion said while the football players had the right to express their feelings about what Carroll said, they did it in the wrong way.
“Self-restraint is always a cardinal rule,” Bennion said. “You have to control yourself. The other side of freedom of speech is responsibility and it goes both ways. In grade school, we may have resorted to physical means, but we ought not do it in college. We all have to deal with frustration in life and being able to handle it like a man is part of it.”
After the incident, Carroll asked for help from Mark Justice, president of Student Association for Free Expression.
“I don’t think anyone thinks (the incident) is right,” Justice said.
He said SAFE is making a big deal of the situation, not because the students were football players, but because they made a threat to another student.
“This has nothing to do with the football team; that should not be forgotten,” Justice said. “It’s students using verbal threats against other students. If any other student came to us with similar complaints, we’d have the same response.”
Hood refused comment, but said, “As far as I’m concerned, it’s all bull s–––,” and threatened to hire a lawyer to keep his name from being printed in the Journal.
Kemp was unable to be reached about the incident, but said, “The main reason why the athletic program here is struggling a little bit, it starts with you guys. You guys are the reason that we’re not having a good season because we have no support; that starts with you and it starts with all the students at the school.”
He also said no threats were made to Carroll’s sister.
Deptola was not available for comment.
Carroll said he does not want the football players to get in trouble over the incident, he just wants a public apology.
C. Ray Gregory, head football coach, said Carroll’s probably not going to get his apology.
“What do you want me to do about it?” Gregory asked. “Did he apologize to them?”
Gregory said while he doesn’t support what the football players did, he thinks they were just supporting the team.
The best thing for Carroll to do is stay away from the players from now on, the coach said.
“People on campus get in arguments all the time, do you see their names in the paper?” Gregory asked. “If you get a better story, come see me.”
Although Gregory said he feels there’s nothing he can do about the incident, he said he will talk with the players and tell them to stay away from Carroll.
Bennion said he is not sure if there’s a punishment for students threatening other students on campus, but if the football players hurt Carroll, it could go to civil court.

Utah boosts non-residents

By LIBERTY CASE
UNIVERSITY JOURNAL

Although Utah’s new residency requirements didn’t seem to harm out-of-state enrollment at other universities throughout the state this fall, administrators said SUU didn’t go unscathed.
According to statistics from the Utah System of Higher Education, out-of-state enrollment increased 4 percent throughout the state this fall.
“I think it is too early to tell (how SUU was affected),” said Luann Abbott, assistant director of Admissions.
In a typical semester SUU has approximately 520 out-of-state students enrolled. This semester out-of-state freshmen enrollment dropped 41 students.
Dale Orton, director of Admissions, said it is a concern when freshmen numbers decrease.
SUU retained current students, but a drop in freshmen numbers could prove to be problematic for future semesters, Orton said.

 

“It looks to me on the whole, our non-residency enrollment (numbers) have stayed the same (this year),” Orton said.
The new requirements double the length of time it takes for students to obtain in-state status.
Abbott said several students met the old residency requirements and were concerned about the new law but stayed at SUU anyway.
“Fall semester was the hardest because we had to disappoint so many students,” Abbott said.
One tenacious student petitioned the governor and some law-makers about the new hardship but received no satisfaction, Abbott said.
“Several students came in and we visited about the ‘what ifs,’” Orton said.
It is unfortunate that SUU could lose potential students because of the new policy, Abbott said.
“We want to help out-of-state students . . . they add a lot to (SUU),”she added.
Administrators said the transition to the new law has been fairly smooth.
“I feel we carried out (the new changes) in the best possible way under the circumstances,” Orton said.
It is difficult to understand how SUU has been affected by the law, Abbott said.
“We need to watch for a year and see some reaction,” she said.