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Senate minutes 11-5-08
OUTLINED MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF THE SUUSA SENATE
November 5, 2008
I. Open Forum
II. Call to Order
a. 6:12pm
III. Approval of Minutes
a. Thatcher- move to approve minutes-2nd-CONSENSUS
IV. Pledge of Allegiance
V. Committee Reports
a. Cranmer- Graduate Council
b. K. Kunkel- Library Committee
VI. Unfinished Business
a. SR 004-09 SUUSA Constitution
i. I.T.: Gray
ii. Pro.: Gray-move to divide the question-2nd
1. Pro.: Gray, Larsen
2. Opp.: Thatcher- move to prev. question-2nd- CONSENSUS
3. Vote: CONSENSUS Question stands divided by a vote of 21-0-0
iii. Part I
1. Pro: Gray, Robinson, Hunter
2. Opp.: Webb, Cook-unanimous consent to move to prev. question
3. Vote: CONSENSUS Amendment Stands 21-0-0
iv. Part II
1. Pro.: Larsen
2. Opp.: Cook- unan. Consent to move to prev. question
3. Vote: CONSENSUS Amendment Stands 21-0-0
v. Part III
1. Pro.: Hunter
2. Opp.: Cook- unan. Consent prev. question
3. Vote: CONSENSUS Amendment Stands 21-0-0
vi. Part IV
1. Pro.: Marshall
2. Opp.: Gray- unan. Consent prev. question
3. Vote: CONSENSUS Amendment Stands 21-0-0
vii. Part V
1. Gray- move to strike the amendment
a. Pro.: Cook-unan. Consent prev. question
b. Vote: CONSENSUS Amendment stricken 21-0-0
viii. Part VI
1. Gray- Strike amendment to article 5, sec. 23- 2nd
a. Pro.: Robinson, Thatcher- unan. Consent prev. question
i. Vote: CONSENSUS Article 5, sec. 23 maintains original wording 21-0-0
ii. Gunn- unan. Consent prev. question
iii. Vote: CONSENSUS Amendment Stands 21-0-0
2. Gray- amend article 1 of membership- 2nd
a. Pro.: Heath- unan. Prev. question- objection
i. Opp.: Thatcher, Cook- unan. Consent prev. question
ii. Vote: CONSENSUS Amendment Stands 21-0-0
b. SR 005-09 Bill of Rights
i. Hunter- postpone indefinitely-2nd
1. Pro.: Gray, Hunter, Cook- unan. Consent prev. question
2. Vote: CONSENSUS Resolution stands postponed 21-0-0
c. SB 014-09 Hiroshima Posters
i. I.T.: K. Kunkel
ii. Pro.: Tizpa- move to amend lines 8 &20 to read 450.00-2nd
1. Pro.: Heath- unan. Consent prev. question
2. Vote on amendment: CONSENSUS Amendment Stands 21-0-0
iii. Pro.: Gray, Gunn, Webb, Taylor- unan. Consent prev. question- objection
i. Opp.: Wilkey, Tizpa, Gray, Cook- unan. Consent prev. question
ii. Vote: CONSENSUS Bill PASSES 21-0-0
d. SB 015-09 Mockers
i. I.T.: Gray, Webb
ii. Pro.: Marshall- amend lines 7 & 15 to read $543.85-2nd
1. Pro.: Gray
2. Opp.: Webb, Tizpa, Hunter
3. Pro.: Gray, Marshall, Gray- unan. Consent prev. question-objection
4. Opp.: Tizpa, Hunter, Heath, K. Kunkel- move to suspend the rules-2nd
5. Larsen- unan. Consent to reinstate the rules
6. Marshall- move to withdraw amendment-2nd
a. Vote: CONSENSUS amendment is withdrawn
7. Opp.: Robinson- unan. Consent prev. question
8. Vote: CONSENSUS Bill PASSES 21-0-0
e. AB 005-08 Blackpool Dance Competition
i. Gunn- move to suspend the rules-2nd
1. Pro.: Gunn
2. Opp.: Gray, Webb-move to prev. question
3. Pro.: Gunn, Gray- unan. Consent prev. question
a. Vote on Suspension of rules: 4-17 No suspension
4. I.T.: Hunter, Gray, Marshall
5. Pro.: Cook- unan. Consent to amend line 5 to read Senate, Gunn, Tizpa, Taylor
6. Opp.: Gray, Webb- move to amend lines 6 & 15 to read $3,750-2nd
a. Pro.: Heath, Webb
b. Opp.: Gunn, Marshall, Robinson
c. Pro.: Gray, Hunter, Heath
d. Opp.: Tizpa, Gray- unan. Consent prev. question
e. Vote: Amendment Stands by a vote of 12-9
7. Opp.: Tizpa- move to amend lines 6 & 15 to read $4,750-2nd
a. Pro.: Robinson, Taylor
b. Opp.: Heath, Webb, Gray-move to extend debate for 20 min.-2nd
i. Pro.: Gray- unan. Consent to extend debate 20 min.
c. Opp.: Gray
d. Pro.: Robinson- unan. Prev. question
e. Vote: Amendment Stands by a vote of 12-9
8. Pro.: Beard, Gunn
9. Opp.: Cook, Thatcher, Gray, Webb
10. Pro.: Gunn, Buechele, Gunn, Beard
11. Opp.: Gray, Hunter, Cook, Gertsch-move to prev. question-2nd
a. Vote: movement DENIED by a vote of 8-13
12. Opp.: Webb-move to amend lines 6 & 15 to read $3,750-2nd
a. Pro.: Fitzgerald, Webb, Heath- unan. Consent prev. question-objection
b. Opp.: Gunn, Tizpa, Thatcher, Taylor
c. Pro.: Webb, Cook, Fitzgerald, Webb-move to prev. question- CONSENSUS
d. Vote: Amendment Stands by a vote of 13-7-1
13. Opp.: Marshall- move to extend time by 10 min.-2nd- CONSENSUS, Gertsch- move to prev. question-2nd- CONSENSUS
14. VOTE on Bill: Bill PASSES by a vote of 16-5
15. Gertsch- move to adjourn meeting-2nd- CONSENSUS
VII. Adjourn
a. 7:53pm
VIII. Executive Session
Posted at 11:02 AM | 4 comments
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Comments:
Was the call for executive session approved by the Senate? Also, what was the nature of what was discussed in the session? I believe these are things you're required to say under state law.
Actually if you read the law it is an open meeting unless we talk about personnel issues. Which we did, but oh wait, no one ever wants to come to those meetings so we do not record them because evidently no one cares about them. So, Anonymous if you want to "man up" to your comments give me your name and I will let you know.
Actually Mr. Strange, if you read the law, "a closed meeting may be held for the following purposes, any of which are limited to discussion about 1) the character/professional competence/health of a person; 2) strategies for collective bargaining; 3) pending or imminent litigation; 4) the price of real property; 5) security personnel or devices; or, 6) criminal misconduct allegations." There are more possible reasons than just personnel issues.
Also, regardless of your obviously poor opinion of SUU students who you serve, it doesn't matter if you think "no one cares about them," a meeting may be closed only if: "1) it is within one of the listed strict exemptions; 2) at the prior open meeting for which proper notice was given, two-thirds of the members of the public body present voted for a closed meeting, if a quorum was present; 3) the reasons for the closed meeting are put into the minutes; and 4) the members’ votes and names are listed." (emphasis added)
Additionally, why can't our elected student representatives reply civilly and maturely to a comment (even if it is anonymous) rather than ridiculing it and refusing to really answer?
Chris Klyde
p.s. Nothing in the law requires a body to hold a closed meeting, even if it's about personnel issues.
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